SAVE BERYL, please, I need your help..

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A lot of words has been said about this Beryl-Compiz reunion. And a lot of words has yet to be said. I believe Beryl is a very ass-kicking brand, name, logo and so on. It is famous, far more than Compiz and it is loved, far more than Compiz.

People love and know Beryl. Geeks and Gurus alone knows about Compiz but it is not said that they love it.

So my pray is simple: save Beryl. Not as a standalone project but as the NAME for future compiz expansion packs. There’s no reason for changing this great name and brand. Compiz willnever give up its name after all.

KDE4 is near us and it has got a very good name too, Plasma. It is right with Aero and Aqua for Vista and OSX. Beryl is right for GNOME, since it represents the element “Earth” and it is related to the real fairy Gnomes too.

I’m having a discussion about this facts in the CompComm forum. I hope it will lead to something and it will bring some light in this very struggled composite community now that the name poll has failed its mission (Luckily).

Please, if you think I’m right, fight with me to make people think about it. Trowing away Beryl would be THE GREATEST error the community could ever make. This is my Post in the CompComm Community, please read it and visit the link.

Boys, look, I don’t want to look as the always present ball-breaker guy but… I don’t like Compiz Fusion because there is the word Compiz into it. Compiz is the core and not a lot of people actually knows or uses compiz. The great majority of users uses Beryl and that’s a fact. Magazines, journals and blogs, all always wrote about Beryl. In a little squared box, occasionally (Only in some magazines) you can read that originally there WAS Compiz, as if it was dead by a long time. Now, since everyone knows only Beryl (And just to point this out, in the compiz information dialog, you can read “Compiz is not Beryl!”… very sad. And that’s because they actually know that people are aware of the existence of Beryl alone) or appreciate/use much more Beryl than compiz, and also, since Compiz is really a bad name (In my hunble opinion), it is really a bad choice to insert compiz into the name of the reunion.

Again I’ll say it: if we whant to compete on the market and spread of 3D desktops or, generally, of composite desktops, we need a strong and charged of meanings name. Fusion is ridiculous, it only refers to the fact that Beryl and Compiz are reuniting. Nobody out there cares about that. Users (Not developers) only want a working and kicking composite desktop. With a great fascinating name. They don’t care about compiz or beryl or a reunion… they only want a final product. And that’s what we have to give them. So Fusion is absolutely not the right name. Think about it.

Then again: OSX has Aqua (Water), Vista has Aero (Air), KDE4 now has Plasma (And it can be considered a sort of element, say it is Energy, lighting, thunder and so on. Very good name indeed, I love it even if I’m a GNOME user). We are talking about elements. Gnome had Beryl (Earth, beryl is a stone after all). And it was a veeeeery good name. Also remember that Gnomes are magic little creatures linked to the earth. So the element of choice for this reunion should be related to the earth. Sorry for saying it but Beryl was really just perfect. Also because Gnomes are known for hiding under the rainbows they’re treasures. And in this cauldrons of treasures there always is gold and also gems… and Beryl is a very precious gem. Not to say the other very strong fact that everything related to Beryl is a gem. Aquamarine, Heliodor, Emerald…. do you really want to throw all of this very strong merchandise in the junk?

It would be a veeery big error, believe me. Now I’ll say what I think we should JUST DO. Compiz remains compiz and Compiz Extra becomes Beryl. That’s all. Beryl should become the extension and completion of Compiz. that makes sense in every way you look at it. Compiz as it is is just a composite manager with some very nice looking features. Then you add the gem, the Beryl. And it becomes a treasure, the strong point of Gnome. And the name is absolutely related to Gnome, to the earth and so on. All of the things I already explained. Everyone in the world now knows and loves Beryl. Don’t throw it away, please. Search in youtube, you already know what you’ll find. There should not be a reunited name. Composite Community is OK for representing the union of ex-beryl and Compiz. But the expansion pack should really be called Beryl and that’s all. Please, try to think about it. No one looses its name and we’re all happy with it. But beside this stupid point, remember: I don’t think there’ll ever be a better name than Beryl around. Don’t let is run away it would be the biggest error in the community history.

This is just the first and most important part of my posts in this CompComm thread about the name poll. Please read also the others posts I made and the answers I received. A lot of people agrees with me.

If you think too that I’m fighting for a right reason, please, support me. Post your opinion, it IS REALLY NEEDED. The Open Source Community always does what the majority of people want to do. So, please, post in this discussion, say something, participate. Don’t stay in a corner, fight for our future.

5 Comments:

  1. I think compiz-fusion is far more advanced than beryl !

  2. Hi Mayur, that post is quite old, ya know, sure Compiz Fusion TODAY is much more advanced than Beryl, and that’s because the Beryls team is working at it! You should look at the date of this post. By those days, Compiz Fusion didn’t even exist (It was compcomm) and what was available for compcomm was almost the mere shadow of what Beryl once was. So, compared to those days, Beryl was the best composite manager around.

    Luckily, today, Compiz Fusion is far and far and far better than the old Beryl. Compare it to the mere compiz? Don’t joke. In the date I posted this thread compiz didn’t even have a transparent cube, a 3d window effect, nothing at all.

    And by the way, the post WAS about saving the NAME Beryl, not the Project. And Beryl WAS the best, with a well known brand and so, read the rest if you didn’t. I guess you did, I hope so 😀
    Today COmpiz Fusion exists and it is a great thing, except for the stupid name. I’ll soon create a post with instructions and hints for COmpiz Fusion too. Bye!

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  4. Wake up all at Compiz as Beryl is alive and kicking !

    You might be interested that over a weekend a mate and myself introduced Beryl back in to the fold. This is a direct result of our frustration of how bloated Compiz has become and is becoming more of a fashion thing rather than functional for having multiple desktops.
    OK so I have been using Ubuntu 7.04 on and off for a couple of years now and Beryl comes as default. After Ubuntu 7.04 Compiz Fusion (now Compiz) came as default. To begin with this was not a problem but as Compiz became more complex with spheres, globes and other useless features, performance was becoming impaired.
    Late one night I started looking at introducing Beryl to Ubuntu 9.04 (Alpha 6). As expected there were numerous depedendency issues.
    Piratesmack looked in to the same possibilty and together we pooled our resources and after running many scripts and testing by myself Piratesmack compiled some dependency free deb. packages.

    Piratesmacks Beryl 0.2.1 deb. packages for Ubuntu 9.04
    http://files.filefront.com/beryl+fixed+904tarbz2/;13596520;/fileinfo.html

    Save to home directory

    extract tar.bz2

    cd beryl-fixed-9.04

    sudo ./install.sh

    Piratesmacks Beryl 0.2.1 deb. packages for Ubuntu/Mint
    http://files.filefront.com/beryl+packages+021tarbz2/;13508777;/fileinfo.html

    Save to home directory

    extract tar.bz2

    cd beryl-packages-0.2.1

    sudo dpkg -i *.deb

    Beryl 0.2.1 on Ubuntu 9.04
    http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/Linux_Ubuntu_geek/?action=view&current=Screenshot.png

    Beryl 0.2.1 on Mint 6
    http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/Linux_Ubuntu_geek/?action=view&current=Screenshot-1.png

    One thing you cannot do is knock the simplicity of Beryl and how much more useful it is than modern day Compiz.

    So for those who wish to mock I say Beryl is far from dead and people want it as they are downloading it for the very reasons I have outlined above.

    LUg.

    • Listen, what u do is very dangerous. Have you read the date of this post? It is VERY OLD. So is Beryl. Don’t misunderstand me, Beryl is still my prefered composite manager, and it was the one with the strongest possibilities in becomin the future of compisiting for Linux, Compiz is now gone in the C++ direction and even compiz fusion is dead. Everything is dying in that direction. Examples? Kwin cloned all of compiz’s features. Gnome Shell will eb completely incompatible with COmpiz because of the window and panel sistem (Panel integrated in the WM). So, where will Compiz++ run? In no system at all. They are even imagining of creating a Compiz DE! crazy.

      Basically, every DE is creating its own accelerated composite manager. No need for compiz anymore… or for Beryl. And that’s a big loss for the entire community I say. Beryl was a strong mark and a strong software. Now it’s old and it will never be updated anymore. So compiling it now or, and tha’s way WORST, removing dependencies so that it runs on today computers, is something very dangerous and wrong. If you wanna do somethign with a little sense, don’t do cheap hacks. Compile it on the new Ubuntu versions and create packages. I will even host them for fun if you will… nevertheless, Beryl is dead. Sadly. Because no one is bringing on the work, it’s that simple. Ah, and there’s no future for it too. Actually, no future for any damned stand-alone composite manager in reality.

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